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Post by Frederic Bourgault-Christie on Feb 22, 2006 2:38:31 GMT -5
Evan sees the same featureless creature he has been awaiting. "So you believe that because it would be convenient, it must be true?"
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Post by Ainsophaur on Feb 22, 2006 2:48:07 GMT -5
"Not exactly...but false hope is just as powerful as true hope is it not?...." Evan will look around if he can "I know its arogent of me to come here seeking answers the easy way, and forgive me for doing so. But where is she?"
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Post by Frederic Bourgault-Christie on Feb 22, 2006 2:52:05 GMT -5
"Except when false hope is disproven. And for those who never let the proof of the world undermine their preconceptions, not only are they being deluded and frequently put themselves or others in harm, but they deprive themselves of the wonders of the world of facts. If you seek to remake yourself in my image, a flattery I suppose I accept but do not recommend, you will have to focus only on the facts. I thought we covered this: I gave you the information I could find, the trail ran dry. It is time for you to try something more extensive and methodical. Arrogance isn't the concern: I admire you for committing yourself to the search."
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Post by Ainsophaur on Feb 22, 2006 3:13:01 GMT -5
"I have been thinking on this for some time now....I would like it very much so...if you'd be willing to take me on as your apperentice.....I know you would like me to stay in Crashing Heavens, but I do not believe I can handle it there much more...Everything is given to me on a silver plater...its like i never earned any of it..I want to learn, from people outside this safezone they have designed, to better well round myself. but they simply won't allow it. Everything is so sensored..."
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Post by Frederic Bourgault-Christie on Feb 22, 2006 3:18:04 GMT -5
Tyrant does that strange motion with his body which indicates his bemused smile. "I don't want anything for you. That isn't my position. Now to be honest, while you are gifted, I don't know if you have the interests to really benefit from my teaching, nor do I know how good of a teacher I would be. I suppose it is my obligation to teach you about your new heritage, from a professional standpoint... But I don't think in good conscience, nor as a practical matter, allow you to turn your back on something that has been so core to you. And in fact the Old Guard are perfectly willing to allow all of you to benefit from areas they would not go into. Helvena wields Frostmourne. You run drugs and guns. I am amazed by their tolerance. Nor would it be remotely fair to describe the sacrifices you made in the Dark Tournament as having been handed to you on a silver platter. You can train under me and benefit with them, and that also helps me more. Remember: I am disconnected from the universe, including them, for a reason. You can be my eyes and ears."
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Post by Ainsophaur on Feb 22, 2006 3:33:36 GMT -5
"If that is what you wish....so be it....I have a few questions if you have the time."
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Post by Frederic Bourgault-Christie on Feb 22, 2006 3:35:29 GMT -5
"It is always your choice. But I have nothing but time, as you know. Ask away."
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Post by Ainsophaur on Feb 22, 2006 3:37:51 GMT -5
"I was thinking the other day....a ray of 1st universe energy....if cast into this world....what would it create...matter infanitly hard....or a freezing stasis type effect at basic levels?...so many ideas run through my head about these new powers and i have no way to apply them...it makes me feel like im going to explode. I feel like a artist without a canvus"
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Post by Frederic Bourgault-Christie on Feb 22, 2006 3:38:44 GMT -5
"It could create any number of effects depending on the variables. If you feel that way, why don't you experiment? Discover the mechanism, form a hypothesis, test it, introduce new variables and test for each in turn."
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Post by Ainsophaur on Feb 22, 2006 3:42:10 GMT -5
Evan will shrug "It just doesn't feel right without an instructor...I mean if i discover something new...and try it out...then come to you, and you say im doing it wrong, sometimes it makes me feel like i had been wasting my time, when you already have the answers." Evan will turn his back to tyrant..."If my hypothsis is correct and it created this matter, is it forgeable?"
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Post by Frederic Bourgault-Christie on Feb 22, 2006 3:45:27 GMT -5
"You cannot be doing something wrong if you have discovered something new. You may make unwarranted assumptions, or draw unwarranted conclusions, or misread evidence, or any number of other errors, but all of these can themselves be useful experiments and instructive themselves. And may I note, no offense meant, that you claim to want independence then refuse to experiment without an instructor. Now let me ask you a thought experiment: A boy is raised in sub-Saharan Africa circa 1960. He discovers not only Newtonian mechanics but Einsteinian relativity on his own. Is this a waste of time, or a marvelous achievement?"
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Post by Ainsophaur on Feb 22, 2006 3:51:31 GMT -5
"Before I answer your question...allow me to adjust my statement. I said that under the pretenses that they know the answers and refuse to give me them, even if i put out a valient effort. They offer guideness where i do not seek it....I'd say its a wonderful discovery"
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Post by Frederic Bourgault-Christie on Feb 22, 2006 3:53:43 GMT -5
"Well, actually, in this case they give you answers that are within your ability to understand. They cannot nor should they (in my opinion) grant you their power instantly. You must learn to adapt to it on their own. If they were capricious as you imply, would they not refuse to train or assist you in any way? In my case, I offer the answers I can, but I cannot respond to questions so vague as to be meaningless, nor can I give too many answers because of my... limitations."
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Post by Ainsophaur on Feb 22, 2006 3:55:04 GMT -5
Evan nods "I see your point...."
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Post by Frederic Bourgault-Christie on Feb 22, 2006 3:56:09 GMT -5
"Well, I'm glad that I could propose an alternative viewpoint. Now, you implied more than this number of questions."
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Post by Ainsophaur on Feb 22, 2006 4:00:50 GMT -5
"I do have more....but if you wish me to experiment then that is what I should do...many of my questions were instructional....but...this one i do wish to ask anyways....is it possible to observe many timelines...and universes with our power? Can we become recorders?...Do you know of other recorders whom might be willing to help me find her?"
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Post by Frederic Bourgault-Christie on Feb 22, 2006 4:04:51 GMT -5
"I don't wish you to do anything. You proposed a difficulty, I proposed a solution. You provided possible disadvantages, I replied. Yes, it is quite possible. Because our position is inherently a fixed one, in a sense, we can step outside the normal motion of the universe, as you have done to speak to me, and take a distant spectator's position." Tyrant seems to speed up a little, getting excited. "Even more, we can take an analysis that even your Old Guard friends must do somewhat intuitively or with tools or so on very much easily called dimensional breadth analyses. You see, dimensions in your universe are sets of possibilities that were chosen. In one universe, someone spills their drink, in another they do not. The distance from each dimension to another is measured by the degree of total distinctions and branches, and some rather distinct universes are well-connected. The natural consequence is that one can take an analysis of the differences between universes and scan for particular parameters, such as a universe with an inverse cube rule of gravity."
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Post by Ainsophaur on Feb 22, 2006 4:08:49 GMT -5
Evan nods "I was experimenting with tracking methods earlier...I have her vampiristy....so in a form her essence....I was thinking maybe using that as a marker...then I was also thinking of using myself...in that I'd imagion in different dimesions...there'd be more of myself...and I could possible travel via essence to search in that method...."
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Post by Frederic Bourgault-Christie on Feb 22, 2006 4:14:52 GMT -5
Tyrant shrugs. "That's possible, but you're thinking cutting across dimensional lines based only on those parameters. The problem is the number of possible universes that such an entity could hide in is either infnite or a staggeringly large non-infinite number."
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Post by Ainsophaur on Feb 22, 2006 4:21:33 GMT -5
Evan nods. "Is it possble to observe them all symotaniously and track the entity?"
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Post by Frederic Bourgault-Christie on Feb 22, 2006 4:23:15 GMT -5
Tyrant's face alters in that way that indicates incredulity. "Theoretically possible, I suppose, but it would require processing ability and power beyond anything available even to Tier 6 beings. Neither you or I can even approach it."
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Post by Ainsophaur on Feb 22, 2006 4:25:49 GMT -5
Evan smirks "Then maybe lessen the scope of viewing...the universe must have some sort of organization...perhaps cut the scope down to 1/100th the view...?...and theres a tier 6?"
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Post by Frederic Bourgault-Christie on Feb 22, 2006 4:31:48 GMT -5
"The universe does indeed have a geometry and an organization, but some degree of chaos and change is built into it, so there isn't a stable point of observation. Of course one would scan piece by piece if one could, but as we all know, moving past your default focal point requires more and more energy the further you do so, and when you cut down on the size you are viewing you are actually changing what you are looking at. You are hitting the difficult of having far too much to search even methodically. Tier 6 is the power that the Old Guard keeps in store as it is rarely needed and highly volatile."
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Post by Ainsophaur on Feb 22, 2006 4:35:03 GMT -5
Evan nods...."If i can't find her methodically by myself....then i am a lose for what to be done, besides find other observers whom may have recorded where she is gone, and whom would be corrupt enough to possible sell the the information...then again there corruption may indeed valinteer the fact that the information is also corrupted and false."
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Post by Frederic Bourgault-Christie on Feb 22, 2006 4:37:03 GMT -5
"See, the moment you encounter difficulties your strategy is to turn to others. When you have a difficulty seeking out what you need because of the size of your parameters, find ways of shrinking your parameters."
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Post by Ainsophaur on Feb 22, 2006 4:39:33 GMT -5
"Ive already attempted that in a sense...I suppose...is it possible to make a stronger targeting system to negate the need of the scanning of each dimension....I have her essense....in a sense....and most likely a me in her plane.......i think the thought is to large for my to convay..."
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Post by Frederic Bourgault-Christie on Feb 22, 2006 4:42:00 GMT -5
OOG: Again, it is really hard to decode what the hell you mean on a fairly frequent basis. Perhaps spending some time spell-checking and reviewing might make some sense.
Tyrant says, "I think she would have chosen a plane without a parallel you. But her geneto-supernatural material in you is valuable, but I am afraid only for the last stage of the search. Come, now! You learned what she wanted in a life, correct?"
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Post by Ainsophaur on Feb 22, 2006 4:45:18 GMT -5
OOC: ...everything i said in that last sentence was pretty clear..so i dunno what your talking about...but whatever Ill put everything through a spell-checker everytime after this post...
"I did."
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Post by Frederic Bourgault-Christie on Feb 22, 2006 4:47:23 GMT -5
OOG: No, it really wasn't, else I wouldn't have commented.
"That means that some universes almost by definition are excluded. Further, when other leads present themselves, you will be able to check these new leads and abort wasting time on them."
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Post by Ainsophaur on Feb 22, 2006 4:50:43 GMT -5
"I truly hate wasting time and energy....sometimes i think it physically hurts me. By narrowing my search in this manner, the dimensions are still quiet possibly infinite are they not?"
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