Ninja Gaiden v. Ninja Scroll v. Naruto

[Frederic Bourgault-Christie]

Looking around, I saw this: lounge.moviecodec.com/vs-forum/ninja-gaiden-vs-ninja-scroll-vs-naruto-and-naruto-shippuden-verse-74708/. This was my reply. What y'all think?


Ninja Gaiden UNIVERSE, counting villains, wins handily.

Ninja Gaiden has Ryu, Ayane, Robert the Rat, Rachel, Ken Hayabusa, the Jaquio, the demon, Ashtar, Clancy, Foster, the Ancient Ship of Doom, Ryu's clone, all of the Friedman demon clones, Friedman himself [both of the previous are from the OVA], the Archfiend, all the demon bosses, Baron Spider, Kelbeross...

It is undoubtedly true that Naruto has more people. Akatsuki alone is a big problem for the Ninja Gaiden verse. (Meanwhile, Ninja Scroll only has a very few relevant characters - they only really come into play in that they might harm some of NG or Naruto's characters).

However, remember that the strongest thing we've seen so far, the Moon Eye plan, is an attempt to conquer the whole world. No continent busters. The Juubi and the ancient forces of the Naruto world were close, but not quite there. The Ancient Ship of Doom was capable of the destruction of all of humanity and quite a lot of the rest of the universe. So was the Demon (and therefore Jaquio), and Ashtar. Advantage #1: Ninja Gaiden.

Ashtar's forces could withstand a major military force, probably the US military, circling the Tower of Lahja easily. The endless forces of evil from the three games are great mooks to overrun Naruto. Further, Dr. Friedman's forces from the OVA, while vulnerable to swords and knives, are also more mooks. It's specifically stated in Naruto that the ninja do NOT eclipse regular armies entirely. Advantage #2: Ninja Gaiden.

It's tempting to say that Sasuke, Naruto, etc. could mop the floor with Ryu. But he wields multiple legendary weapons and has killed two demons that could end all life, destroyed an ancient warship and defeated an evil overlord with immense power. Advantage #3: Ninja Gaiden. (But, ultimately, Ryu's merits are moot since it comes down to the fact that the Ancient Ship of Doom can hide in another dimension until it rains destruction down on all of Naruto's enemies. Remember: Ryu only got in BEFORE it got activated).

Dr. Friedman and Clancy/Foster from #3 could use cloning to clone all of Narutoverse's strongest fighters. It is established within Naruto through Yamato (manga canon) and Sora (anime canon) that cloned fighters can be incredibly deadly in their own right, and the Narutoverse apparently lacks full-on cloning. Advantage #4: Ninja Gaiden.

Masashi Kishimoto has specifically stated that the Naruto world is one without guns because he finds it hard to imagine how even ninja as strong as his creations would stay relevant in a world with firearms, explosives, etc. From what we've seen of Jeff, Foster, Clancy, Robert, and Irene, they can bring to bear pistols, heavy machineguns, cars, tanks, airstrikes and grenades. Further, this fact only makes Ryu MORE impressive: His powers (as well as the powers of Ayane and Rachel) are still noteworthy in a world with modern armaments. Advantage #5: Ninja Gaiden.

The Naruto universe could attempt to use trickery, genjutsu, and other effects to neutralize at least the Ancient Ship of Doom. Except they tend to be very bad at that, supposed shinobi nature aside. I'll give a narrow advantage to Naruto here, except that it's highly unlikely that genjutsu would work on the Demon.

Ken Hayabusa was apparently indestructible as long as he was controlled by the statue. If Ken were sent at an enemy like Hidan, he could keep them at a standstill. Advantage #6: Ninja Gaiden.

Many enemies in Ninja Gaiden are capable of proper teleportation casually, as compared to the vast importance it has in Naruto (see: Yellow/Orange Flash, Kakashi's teleportation, etc.) Advantage #7: Ninja Gaiden.

However, let's assume a world where Ninja Gaiden doesn't get the forces plausibly under Foster/Clancy's command or the Ancient Ship of Doom, or the endless waves of demons from the XBox games. That tips the balance to the Narutoverse.

If we just refer to small squad combat between the "elites" of both worlds, well, regrettably I don't think that even Ryu, Rachel, Ayane, Irene, Jeff, Robert, Ashtar, the demon, Clancy, Foster, Clone Ryu, Dr. Flame, Barbarian, Kelbeross, Bomberhead, Bloody Malth, and the other bosses can match the sheer numbers of Naruto, Sasuke, Sakura, Sai, Rock Lee, Kiba, Madara, Deidara, Hidan, Kakuzu, Kakashi, Zetsu, the Raikage, the Mizukage, Zabuza, Kisame, Kirabi, Pain, Konan, Sasori, Chiyo, Tobirama, Hashirama, Sarutobi, Orochimaru, Jiraiya, Tsunade, Danzo, Yamato, Itachi... Naruto wins by sheer numbers of elites in that instance.

But, since you specified the entire 'verse, well, Ninja Gaiden wins .

[blacktothefuture]

tl;dr

Ninja Gaiden gets my vote. Ninja Scroll (from what little I've seen) is too low powered a continuity and Naruto just doesn't quite cut it.

Between the different factions within Narto etc I'd imagine it'd be a challenge for Ryu, but nothing more. In fact it sounds like the premise for a much easier ninja gaiden game.

"Fight your way thought several continents of ninjas with strange techniques! Each with a powerful leader ninja at its head. Only you can put an end to this strife within the ninja world that threatens to destroy all....but not nearly as hard as those past bosses."

Ryu's vacation. That's what it'd be.

He'd be wearing a pineapple-coconut shirt and shorts, but killing Sasuke and Madara at the same time. ^^

[Frederic Bourgault-Christie]

No love for Naruto?

Ryu is capable of slaughtering hordes of demons with dozens of legendary weapons, knows hundreds of powerful techniques, and has defeated enemies that were continent busters. But there's no reason to expect he has an intrinsic counter to the Sharingan, so Obito, Sasuke, Kakashi, Madara and Itachi already have a pretty powerful counter: Being able to slow him down and learn all his moves.

Ryu tends to fight bosses one on one (well, except for the Kelbeross... grrr...). Akatsuki wouldn't play nice like that.

Further, he tends to beat foes in a sort of underdog sense: Building up to save the world. Those enemies tend to stay still and attack rather than try to run and move.

If the Naruto ninjas arranged themselves into stages and let Ryu build up, learning new Jutsu from them, then yeah, by the time he reaches Madara they're toast.

But if Pain throws a giant gravity bomb while Hidan aggresses and keeps up the pressure followed by Kakuzu blanketing the area with elemental energy followed by Naruto throwing tons of clones at him or going sage mode and using Rasenshuriken followed by Sasori filling the sky with poisoned needles and a hundred puppets... I think Ryu would run out of energy and, eventually, lives.

[blacktothefuture]

Well, I suppose.

But then again I'd stress Ryu quality over Naruto quantity. And I haven't even played the games very in depth.

[Frederic Bourgault-Christie]

Well, to be fair, the topic revised to, basically, Ninja Gaiden and Ninja Scroll heroes vs. Naruto villains, and then Naruto heroes vs. Ninja Scroll and Ninja Gaiden villains. In that context, I'd say villains win both times.