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Kevin
Mar 25, 2009 1:18:18 GMT -5
Post by Scott Pilgrim on Mar 25, 2009 1:18:18 GMT -5
Figured, never hurts to ask, and I figured it would be a wonderful contrast to what I am using, I use light, and being able to make the one thing light can't escape from. Anyway, how about... Ice, The Crystalline Alchemist. And by clap Alchemy I mean Alchemy without circles.
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Kevin
Mar 25, 2009 1:29:12 GMT -5
Post by Frederic Bourgault-Christie on Mar 25, 2009 1:29:12 GMT -5
Ah, yes, the Alchemy available to those who have seen beyond the Gate.
What exactly will you do with ice? Make chemicals with a high freezing point? Lower thermal mass? Turn nitrogen into liquid nitrogen? Lower pressure, making a pressure blast and sudden ice formation?
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Kevin
Mar 25, 2009 2:25:14 GMT -5
Post by Scott Pilgrim on Mar 25, 2009 2:25:14 GMT -5
Condense the molecules in liquids and gasses to freeze them.
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Kevin
Mar 25, 2009 12:40:44 GMT -5
Post by Frederic Bourgault-Christie on Mar 25, 2009 12:40:44 GMT -5
Actually, technically turning a gas into a solid (e.g. turning molecules into the air, a gas, into ice, a solid) is deposition, not condensation . Condensation is turning liquids into solids. Compression and cooling are most commonly the way that one achieves deposition or condensation, but maybe you could also try screwing with the dew point (a point of saturation) or thermal mass or something.
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Kevin
Mar 25, 2009 19:33:12 GMT -5
Post by Scott Pilgrim on Mar 25, 2009 19:33:12 GMT -5
Well whatever the science is behind it, I'd like to freeze any object.
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Kevin
Mar 25, 2009 23:18:20 GMT -5
Post by Frederic Bourgault-Christie on Mar 25, 2009 23:18:20 GMT -5
Well, the fun of Amestrisian alchemy is to come up with a mechanism. I thought for you we'd change the freezing, boiling, etc. points of objects. It's actually a broad-reaching mechanic, but initially you'd be the Hot Ice Alchemist [which is doubly cool since it's the same name as Hot Ice Hilda from Outlaw Star]. The simplest form is to change the point at which water becomes a solid to be higher than the atmospheric temperature, so that all water immediately becomes solid while retaining its temperature. Imagine someone being boiled to death in ice. It'd also let you kill someone by turning all the water in their body into a solid.
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Kevin
Mar 26, 2009 0:17:50 GMT -5
Post by Scott Pilgrim on Mar 26, 2009 0:17:50 GMT -5
though that's dangerously close to Human Alchemy for me to try, I know I wouldn't attempt it for that reason, and because the character is me, in character I wouldn't do that.
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Kevin
Mar 26, 2009 2:24:11 GMT -5
Post by Frederic Bourgault-Christie on Mar 26, 2009 2:24:11 GMT -5
Do you mean the whole idea or just the Kimblee-like adaptation?
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Kevin
Mar 26, 2009 15:05:33 GMT -5
Post by Scott Pilgrim on Mar 26, 2009 15:05:33 GMT -5
The part where I use the HotIce thing to freeze the water in people's bodies. I'll freeze things around them, just not in them.
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Kevin
Mar 26, 2009 19:26:22 GMT -5
Post by Frederic Bourgault-Christie on Mar 26, 2009 19:26:22 GMT -5
Makes sense. So I think we'll do that (change the freezing point) and change the thermal mass as well.
Thermal mass, by the way, is the amount of resistance to changing temperature something has. It's like mass and inertia for physical objects. An object with high thermal mass requires a lot of energy to heat or to cool. This matters, for example, in cooking: Water has a high thermal mass, as does oil, so it convects well and doesn't drop in heat too much when you add something. But steel and metals have a lower thermal mass, making them more convenient for cooking. If we change the thermal mass of air, then it's easier for you, alchemically, to either remove heat or to add it, making it easier to freeze things. Combining that with a higher freezing temperature and you get really fast, really rapidly spreading, ice, if not Bose-Einstein condensates!
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Kevin
Mar 26, 2009 19:43:36 GMT -5
Post by Scott Pilgrim on Mar 26, 2009 19:43:36 GMT -5
So, because I think I'd have to do something really bad to attain Clap Alchemy, I'll probably make a bracelet like the one Majihal used.
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Kevin
Mar 27, 2009 0:27:22 GMT -5
Post by Frederic Bourgault-Christie on Mar 27, 2009 0:27:22 GMT -5
Actually, we might be able to set up under Training a viewing of the Gate. Remember that it just comes from SEEING the Gate, which is inside all of us. Most get it through failed attempts at human alchemy, but that's not the only possible option.
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Kevin
Mar 27, 2009 1:06:52 GMT -5
Post by Scott Pilgrim on Mar 27, 2009 1:06:52 GMT -5
that is something everyone with Alchemy should get in on, Clap alchemy is extremely useful.
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Kevin
Mar 27, 2009 2:35:43 GMT -5
Post by Frederic Bourgault-Christie on Mar 27, 2009 2:35:43 GMT -5
Fred has it, Black does not due to his Roy Mustang focus.
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Kevin
Mar 27, 2009 14:34:51 GMT -5
Post by Scott Pilgrim on Mar 27, 2009 14:34:51 GMT -5
well, if that's what black wants.
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Kevin
Mar 27, 2009 16:00:13 GMT -5
Post by Frederic Bourgault-Christie on Mar 27, 2009 16:00:13 GMT -5
No, I was saying he doesn't presently have it, not that he doesn't. He could indeed join you in the Training thread to see the Gate.
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Kevin
Mar 27, 2009 20:32:08 GMT -5
Post by Scott Pilgrim on Mar 27, 2009 20:32:08 GMT -5
Well lets ask him then.
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Kevin
Mar 27, 2009 22:24:18 GMT -5
Post by Frederic Bourgault-Christie on Mar 27, 2009 22:24:18 GMT -5
I shall!
What else to work on, in the interim?
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Kevin
Mar 28, 2009 1:31:32 GMT -5
Post by Scott Pilgrim on Mar 28, 2009 1:31:32 GMT -5
A Barrel Roll!
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Kevin
Mar 28, 2009 14:46:35 GMT -5
Post by Frederic Bourgault-Christie on Mar 28, 2009 14:46:35 GMT -5
Actually, as a flight specialist teaching another flight specialist, Fred can teach you the Green Lantern Barrel Roll. Congratulations.
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Kevin
Mar 28, 2009 16:51:47 GMT -5
Post by Scott Pilgrim on Mar 28, 2009 16:51:47 GMT -5
-__-
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Kevin
Mar 29, 2009 0:10:09 GMT -5
Post by Frederic Bourgault-Christie on Mar 29, 2009 0:10:09 GMT -5
But seriously, now you need to come up with a few Crystalline Alchemist / Hot Ice Alchemist abilities.
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Kevin
Mar 29, 2009 4:15:19 GMT -5
Post by Scott Pilgrim on Mar 29, 2009 4:15:19 GMT -5
Could I freeze the air?
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Kevin
Mar 29, 2009 13:14:25 GMT -5
Post by Frederic Bourgault-Christie on Mar 29, 2009 13:14:25 GMT -5
Yes, that's the idea here.
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Kevin
Mar 29, 2009 15:32:36 GMT -5
Post by Scott Pilgrim on Mar 29, 2009 15:32:36 GMT -5
then freeze the air around people and suffocate them, or leave the head open so we can interrogate them. Make an Ice spear for throwing, or a sword and shield for close quarters. Freeze someone's feet to the ground to immobilize them. and last but not least, sword chucks yo.
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Kevin
Mar 30, 2009 15:39:30 GMT -5
Post by Frederic Bourgault-Christie on Mar 30, 2009 15:39:30 GMT -5
All sound good. Add Shield 40%, Spear 40%, Sword-Chucks 40%, Sword 40%, and your names for those abilities to your sheet.
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Kevin
Mar 30, 2009 16:09:09 GMT -5
Post by Scott Pilgrim on Mar 30, 2009 16:09:09 GMT -5
Sword Chucks were actually a joke.
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Kevin
Mar 30, 2009 20:59:44 GMT -5
Post by Frederic Bourgault-Christie on Mar 30, 2009 20:59:44 GMT -5
Once you have Skill % into it, it's actually a good weapon.
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Kevin
Mar 30, 2009 21:47:08 GMT -5
Post by Scott Pilgrim on Mar 30, 2009 21:47:08 GMT -5
Well never look a gift horse in the mouth right?
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Kevin
Mar 30, 2009 23:05:08 GMT -5
Post by Frederic Bourgault-Christie on Mar 30, 2009 23:05:08 GMT -5
Unless you have good intelligence from Jack Bauer that it's got a bomb in it! THE GIFT HORSE... THAT EXPLODES!
Or unless it's a wooden horse.
So, the next training goal for Kevin is discovering the Gate?
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