Almighty Taklinn

[Vincent Hack]

okay first things first I need to go over a few ability scores of taklinn's before we begin specifically

Strength and Endurance are fucking obscene
Taklinn is simply a 10th level warhulk and the rest Paladin
translated, taklinn makes F2 whirlwind attacks as a regular attack
as well as a sweeping effect whenever he uses a throwin' rock
finally he uses his strength and not his dexterity when using his rocks

Dnd stat line

Str:82
Dex:20
Con:52
Int:18
Wis:26
Cha:26

power these up to CH level

Basic equipment
his greatsword which is about as holy as the abyss is evil
his full plate which is even more holy that his sword
and his throwin rocks, taken form the ruins of many aincent temples

other than F2 power attack, cleave, great cleave, and a few F2 great smiting's (the efects stack) his three fold smite (three smites in one) positive energy aura, and planar turning, he's pretty much a standard paladin

he would have joined CH as soon as he possibly could and is one of the few people hack respects (one guess as to why)

[Frederic Bourgault-Christie]

I'd say H Forbidden Str and M Forbidden End. It sounds like to get very high attributes and Merits, you're going to sacrifice a lot of Fs and F2s, so maybe half the normal number of Fs and F2s? You'll probably have 150 or so CPs into Paladin, so except for trainer abilities and the free Classes you'll be all Paladin abilities (Diablo II and WoW lists will be damn useful). You also are clearly leaning more to the strength side of the Tree. Any Prestige Classes like Undead Slayer or what not?

Does the greatsword have special abilities, or what is its focus? Ditto for the full plate. I like the idea of special rocks, could even be your own quest... Come up with 10 or so either unique rocks or patterns of rocks with textures, shapes, etc. for strategic variety.

With that prodigious of attributes and basic skill as well as ethical qualifications, he would easily qualify for CH, of course. Helvena would probably have requested him, and most of the team, even Quion, will respect him.

Work him out a bit more, including making a full sheet with the communal abilities and so on listed, and you'll immediately get him playable.

[Vincent Hack]

by Dnd his sword was +10 holy and axiomatic power and speed, it was made of cold iron
his full plate was +10 great invulnrability (25/+5) and made of adamantine
his rocks were simply good aligned, although some were more brick like,others flat and frisbee like although razored edges, each weighing approxamately 2 million pounds (and yes by DnD standards he could LAUNCH these) acctually I may go with Hulking Hurler (complete woarrior) and traidic knight (champions of valor)
most of Taklinn's abilities are acctually epic feats (positive energy aura, planar turning and what not)
keep in mind Taklinn's Dnd Ecl is 52, and many Dm's have called him a game destroyer hell even in the game I did use him in, Overdeities were terrified of him.

[Frederic Bourgault-Christie]

1000 tons isn't SO much... Those babies will be FTLing like none other. Tonight I plan to have the Forbidden . Now,

The full attribute spread will probably be:
Str - H Forbidden
End - M Forbidden
Reflex - VH Godlike 5/20
Keen - VH Godlike 5/20
Int - VH Godlike
P. Ability - VH Godlike 15/20
Charisma - VH Godlike 15/20
Will - VL Forbidden

Yes, I count Positive Energy Aura, Planar Turning, etc. as Abilities, which is where Merits are distinct from Feats. But that is nonetheless represented in that most of your abilities are per-day or other discrete time period, practically costless, etc. So you won't be doing anything really spectacular, but you will be lasting awhile and hitting very hard each time. Your character has all the three stats for a main tank as well, and depending on how you structure your abilities and so on he may be a main tank there as well, which would only leave trainer abilities. Also, you could definitely get a TON of Auras. Just remember: Prestige Classes are just like any other Class and take CPs. In addition, if you want a Secret Paladin Class...

Don't worry, Taklinn will be deadly, but Itek has decimated multiple All-Fathers and Kaioshin in the past, according to Tyrant. You currently have the highest Str of the team, even bigger than the 75-foot flame dimension! (His P. Ability ties your Strength).

I can also enter Taklinn into the tournament, if you wish. (Do post there as both DI and Hack).

Everything sounds okay so far, just give me some more meat...

[Vincent Hack]

he is acctually entirely self trained, seeing as most warhulks don't live long enough to gain an apprentice

[Frederic Bourgault-Christie]

Well, that doesn't mean Taklinn has never learned from others at any time. After all, even Magis, so rare they almost never encounter another of their same type, can learn from their experiences. And if Taklinn was a champion of the people, many would work to train him. But yes, you can note that under a Trait: Self-Trained. It means your abilities are largely your own: Disadvantage is the half Fs and so on, Advantage is the attributes you have (can always substitute with advantages) and that the abilities you do know you are uniquely gifted with and know like the back of your hand, which allows Combination and Cooperation Tech bonuses among other things. You still get the 10 OGM trainers, though.

[Vincent Hack]

hmm....
Inuyasha
Cloud
Sephiroth (more fighting against)
Conan the Barbarian
Thyrm (more fighting against)
Surtur (more fighting against)
Plus any other great sword/axe wielding characters

hmm.....
Traits, self trained and self reliant to a fault
Totem, the earth from which he was born
Height, 14'8"
Weight 1985 pounds
Age: aproxamately 200
Blood type: umm...holy?
Physique: Hulking

[Frederic Bourgault-Christie]

I need a physical description like with Hack.

All looks fine, just get some discrete abilities in there, make a unified sheet, and add the Communals.

[Vincent Hack]

alright Taklinn is H aulk of a giant standing almost fifteen feet tall and weaighiing nearly a ton, he wears shining adamantine full plate the craftsmanship of which is envied by even the most skilled of cosmic forges, he carries a great sword so Holy that it hurts a corrupted soul to even look upon it, his eyes shine a brilliant topaz and two birdlike wings of the purist white erupt from his back, even the most cowardly feels an overwhelming sense of courage when in his midst, and one can clearly see that beneath his stone grey skin is an overwhelming muscle mass, Taklinn dosen't combat evil, He Anhilates it

Desctete ablities, well there's the half celestial spell like abilities (which always rock) his ability to use his phenominal strength instead of dexterity even when throwing an object at a specific point

[Frederic Bourgault-Christie]

Give those names and add it. I'd add all the Diablo II Paladin skills plus list all your powers you had in D&D. Make me a sheet in the format given and go through all the directions listed that I gave you earlier. Have at least half your F2s from your trainers and your Fs (i.e. Wind Scar III, Backlash Wave II, Blades of Blood III, Ironreaver Soulstealer III...)

[Vincent Hack]

it's in the Dnd monster manual, which my friend happens to be borrowing

[Frederic Bourgault-Christie]

...What is? And get me the sheet in your next post.

[Vincent Hack]

Half celestial spell like abilities, they we basically things like bless magic circle against evil aid cure moderate wounds ressurection summon monster 9(celestails only)

positive energy aura is like turning undead without the turning part
(they simply are repulsed 10 feet from him)

and I dont really know how the sheet go's
so I'll type a few thing on his experience

knowledge religion,history,nobility and royalty and the planes are maxed
ride and handle animal are next on the list, he'd probably ride some celestial dire dinosaur
athletics and intimidation are the only class skills of the warhulk
of his paladin spells he prepares only healing spells

F2's
great smiting(3)
power attack
endurance
diehard
(as the Dnd feats but much better)
smite evil
remove disease
remove poison
Lay on hands
unarmed strike (lethal or subdual, my choice)

F's
Holy aura
holy smite (as spell)
Holy light (searing ligt basically)
magic circle against evil
bless (self plus all allies in 90 ft)
consecrate
Aid


affinities:
ki: med
magic: high
psychic: low
tech: high

[Frederic Bourgault-Christie]

Many of those sounds like Merits, which if you took the spread you listed would be Power Attack, Unarmed Strike, etc. Lay on Hands, Remove Disease, Remove Poison, Smite Evil etc. (all of which would be Lay on Hands IV, Remove Disease IV, etc.) would be the abilities. Remember that you only get three or so innate F2s, the remaining ones are trainer inspired, which means you'll probably get things like Backlash Wave IV, Supernova II, etc. To be clear: Unarmed Strike is not an ability. Futae no Kiwami Infinite Render is an ability.

Do you want higher Affinities than Hack did? Most of the team ranges from 2500-3000 distributed among the four Affinities. You still need the four trainers left. Dekar, Aguro, Maxim and Guy from Lufia would be great for the ax and greatsword training. I'd give you 2500 for your current attribute spread unless you take more Negatives. Do remember your 5 Positive Trait Points.



The sheet is the same as always, given on the site elsewhere:

Name:
Race:
Classes:
Notes:
Zodiac Sign:
Disposition:
Ethical Archetype:
Hobbies and Interests:
Preferences:
Pet Peeves:
Favorite Color:
Favorite Number:
Personality Quirks:
Religion or Spirituality
Appearance:
Eye Color (if any eyes):
Hair Color (if any hair):
Distinguishing Marks:
Height:
Weight:
Preferred Clothing:
History:
Family Members:
Friends:
Educational Level:
Attributes:
Str
Keen
Rflx
End
Cha
Int
P. Ability
Will
Affinities:
Magic
Ki
Tech
Psi
Traits:
Positive:

Negative:

Neutral:
Personal Totem:
Abilities:

[Organize how you wish – in Psionics, Magic, Ki and Tech; or Normal, Legendary, Forbidden, Transgressive; or in other categories]

Skills:
Merits:

[Include trainers

Equipment:
Cybernetics:
Symbiotes and Bio-Wizardry:
Energon Disc Transformation:
Dark/Light Path:
------------Light-Light
-----Savior
------------Light-Dark
Taklinn
------------Dark-Light
-----Avenger
------------Dark-Dark

[Vincent Hack]

I know those characters and Lufia rocks
i'll get to work on the character

he acctually has one additional weapon
a +5 keen shocking bust thundering, gladius that was laminated as well as murcuriel

5 Positive Trait Points.

Name: Taklinn
Race: half celestial stone giant
Classes:Martial Artist (10) Red Mage (10) Alchemist (10) White Witch (10) Omni Ahmoqa Blado Randce (5) Dragon Thief (5)Veneficium Secutor (5) Paladin(160) hulking hurler(5) triadic knight(10) warhulk (20) Cleric [strength,earth] (30) Giant Paragon (20) Tribal Protector (25)
Notes:
Zodiac Sign: Leo
Disposition: bigger than you
Ethical Archetype: Defender
Hobbies and Interests: swords, smiting evil, flying
Preferences: the larger(not fatter) the better
Pet Peeves: small things, political corruption
Favorite Color: gold
Favorite Number: 59238956(the number of demons he has slain)
Personality Quirks: unlike many paladins he tends to act before he thinks
Religion or Spirituality :worships the spirit of the earth
Appearance: extremely muscular
Eye Color (if any eyes): topaz
Hair Color (if any hair): Bald
Distinguishing Marks: his wings,
Height: 14'8"
Weight: 2300
Preferred Clothing: shining full plate
History: violent
Family Members: Koehin (a solar angel in the old guard)
Friends: all who crusade against evil
Educational Level: largely church oriented
Attributes:
Str VH forbidden (25/100)
Keen VH godlike (6/20)
Rflx VH godlike (10/20)
End H forbidden (10/20)
Cha VH godlike (19/20)
Int VH godlike (5/20)
P. Ability VH godlike (11/20)
Will VL forbidden (15/25)
Affinities:
Magic 950
Ki 300
Tech 1150
Psi 150
Courage 300
Traits:
Positive:
Defender's Health
related to old guard member (father)
trained by old guard member (father)
Unbreakable spirit (pretty much immune to the mental effects of torture)
Unshakeable loyalty
anamantine will
self sufficent
infallable
Negative:
Intolerant of insolence
self relient
Low Affinities
Neutral:
relentless
believes in the best of all creatures (sometimes good, sometimes bad)
diamond in the rough (dispair)
Personal Totem:
Abilities:
positive energy aura
planar turning
great smiting (5)
overwhelming critical (greatsword)
F2
Powerattack
Backlash Wave IV
Supernova II
Futae no Kiwami Infinite Render
Contrarian Urge(psionic)
Cleave
Fnk infinite chain
Fnk eternal weakness
Fnk world nova
God Bellow
Planet Fall (self ceated foe must be Airborne and at least 1500 feet up taklinn then strikes them so hard that they hit the ground with the force of the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs)
Warming Hate
Bulls strength IV
Breath weapon(element of user's choice)
ValorIII
Fry III
F
World sage balm
Salve III
AntidoeIII
Restorer
Creator's birth
Life's tenacity
Reflect III
Safe III
Shell III
Red White
Wind Scar III,
Backlash Wave II
Blades of Blood III
Ironreaver Soulstealer III
muscle compression,
silvertounge's shield
Yang's shadow
Impossible bl0ck
Shield of Might
Scald sword
Reverse cauterize
Welding flame

Innocent Precognition
Sense Evil III
Detect Innocent III
Detect Danger III
Detect Lie III
Prophecy III
Touch Precognition III
Heavenly Boons: Information III)
Innocence Power (combines senses to make Taklinn like Phoebe or Doyle)

Transgressives
Solar Density Body
Righteous might IV
Skills:
Track 700%
Knowledge religon 700%
Ride 700%
Handle animal 700%
Athletics 700%
Prowl 300%
Diplomacy 500%
Alertness 450%
Merits:
Transgressive multi armor
Transgressive multi shield
Transgressive utilize defence equipment

[Include trainers
Inuyasha
Cloud
Conan
Thyrm
Surtur
Sephiroth
Maxim
Dekar
Guy
Aguro
Bahamut
Spekkio

Equipment:
enchanted holy coldiron greatsword of speed
song of storms (the gladius)
Enchanted adamantin fullplate of great invulnrability
Cybernetics:none
Symbiotes and Bio-Wizardry:polarity arms
Energon Disc Transformation: Imperial Super Tank, or Dire Stone Bear
Dark/Light Path:
------------Light-Light
-----Savior
------------Light-Dark
Taklinn
------------Dark-Light
-----Avenger
------------Dark-Dark
other possessions
potion of merciful death
lighning enchanted hammer
chronal linker watch (linked to Hack)
Ligntning catcher
Unidentified cutlass
garnet ring (cursed)
babel fish symbiote

1 F2
1 trainer

spekkio rewards
5 Trial Ticket
2 Heaven Seed
2 Hell Seed
10 Rank Boost Tabs
8 Merit Tabs
8 Skill Tabs (+100%)
5 Positive Trait Tabs
3 Negative Trait Elimination Tabs
2 Mega-Elixirs
5 Elixirs
5 Diablo Charms
3 Forbidden Materia
1 Forbidden 2 Materia
1 Djinn
1 Forbidden 2 Element
10 Forbidden Elements
1 Job Gem
Random Equipment (1D10, D100 each)

[Frederic Bourgault-Christie]

It's far more than +5 in CotG, but yes. That sounds fine. If you have any additional questions, shoot. If you can find a full list of all the Cleric spells in D&D, I'd add them to your sheet at at least Normal levels.

Erdrick from Dragon Warrior and any D&D or Warcraft Paladins would also be good sources for trainers.

EDIT: Don't forget the Communal, Job Gem and Tome Jobs.

[Vincent Hack]

I(player) don't know those ones
and if you could handle skills
(standard pally list plus athletics)

[Frederic Bourgault-Christie]

See the Group Resources thread, it lists the Job Gems, from which you pick one Class from each. The Tomes include a class at 6 Class Points having to do with (one of EACH of the following):

*Martial arts
*Flame
*Psionics
*Engineering, science, forging or enchanting
*Magic

The Communal Classes are:

Martial Artist (10)
Red Mage (10)
(Alchemy class at 10: Amestrisian Alchemist, any sub-specialization, etc.)
White Witch (10)
Paladin (10)
Omni Ahmoqa Blado Randce (5)
Dragon Thief (5)
Veneficium Secutor (5)

Also continue to work out your Abilities: 1 F per 3 Class Points, 1 F2 from every other trainer.

[Vincent Hack]

ooh I just thought up another two trainers. Miyamoto Musashi and Zaraki Kenpachi.
and upon playing WoW I realized that Taklinn is the Dream of all Ret Pallies

[Frederic Bourgault-Christie]

With his Strength/Endurance, he's also not a terrible Prot Pally.

[Vincent Hack]

I know. and yaay for dual spec!
that aught to finish off his abilities acctually. though I'd have to get off my ass and get my paladin to 80 to see all of the paladin's abilities.

[Frederic Bourgault-Christie]

As I've noted before, WoW Talents are Merits, so if you want to take some Talents to a new, Transgressive level, note it.

www.wowwiki.com/wiki/Paladin

[Vincent Hack]

Hmm I decided to talent calculate it out rather than type it.
www.wowarmory.com/talent-calc.xml?cid=2&tal=000000000000000000000000002532003500000000000000000050232250220031322133231031

[Frederic Bourgault-Christie]

Fair enough, except I imagine you'd have something more like 130 Talent points for the Forbidden versions.

[Vincent Hack]

Yeah, but unfortunately The talent calculator only goes to 70 talent points. so I'll have to improvise,
later, posting like a madman to catch up.

[Frederic Bourgault-Christie]

Yeah, just build out 70 into the primary Talent (probably Prot or Ret), then 30/30 or whatever.

[Vincent Hack]

Cata's talents are all wonky so I'll improvise.

fill ret completely to start

then for half talents in prot we'll start with
3/3 divinity
2/2 seals of the pure
1/2 eternal glory

2/2 judgements of the just
3/3 toughness

2/2 hallowed ground
3/3 sanctuary
2/2 wrath of the light bringer

2/2 reckoning

1/1 vindication

Holy

2/2 arbiter of the light
3/3 protector of the innocent
3/3 judgements of the pure

2/2 last word
2/2 blazing light

2/2 denounce
1/1 divine favor
2/2 infusion of light

2/2 enlightened judgements
3/3 speed of light
3/3 conviction


I put roughly double the normal cata talent points into him, and gave him a retribution focus but he can still take a punch or heal an ally.
I can only imagine how beastly his guardian of aincent kings will be.

Still debating the Diablo paladin build that would be best, for him.

Possibly an Auradin to add some versitility to his considerable "use swords to kill stuff" skill.